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  2. DANJ!

    Oct 7th, 2009

    Aight… so you knew I was gonna weigh in on this here. We were both born in ‘79, and like you, I’ve also linked my birth to the birth of recorded hip-hop music, haha.

    On one side, I def. agree with you. On some other points, I don’t. Lemme explain- I agree with just about all you said. I was the same way, being brought up listening to all kinds of music and even liking the oldies- my mother is a Motown stan for real. I enjoyed the Native Tongue side of hip-hop, as well as the gangsta side, and the braggadocio side, and even some of what was the “commercial” side. I pretty much was a fan of every part of the spectrum for a long time- so I tend not to agree w/ the part about ‘The Chronic’. I mean yeah, it definitely did its part to change the tone and direction of the music. And it def. got to a point where materialism and all that comes with it dominated.

    But I didn’t really have a problem with it. For me, it was OK to listen to Puffy AND The Roots. It was cool to listen to Jay-Z AND Mos Def. I liked them both for different reasons. I know there’s a lot of people on both sides of that coin who may not feel that way, but I’ve always been like that. I appreciated that hip-hop can go allll the way in one direction, and go allll the way in another.

    It only becomes a problem to me when it’s like it is NOW. Back in the late-90s everybody thought it was the end of the world… but I think they failed to realize that even then, we were still able to cut on Rap City and see a KRS video just as easily as we could see Lil’ Kim. Even if that wasn’t the most popular shit, they still had that outlet to be played along with the popular shit, and we could make our choices as to what we liked. Now it’s to a point where a lot of listeners (and artists) don’t give a shit about diversity, or lyrics, or originality, or… any damn thing, it seems like. I just had a dude tell me Gucci Mane was ‘killin’ it’ right now. Really? As someone who grew up seeing Snoop’s popularity growing, then Biggie’s, then Jay’s, even DMX’s, anticipating their albums on the strength of their guest appearances… and now someone’s telling me it’s all about Gucci Mane?

    It’s just really hard to dedicate myself to the music as a whole. I like certain artists and certain songs- but it’s def. not the same feeling I had back when I loved the WHOLE genre/culture that respected itself and its history. But like you said, I remain committed anyway- because when it comes down to it, it’s always gonna be my favorite music ever. What am I gonna do, decide at age 29 that I wanna start listening to the Jonas Brothers? Of course not. If hip-hop ever gets so bad I wanna totally leave it alone, I got a GANG of music from the last 25 years that says I won’t.

    -D! (my bad, I wrote a whole blog inside your blog. It’s the God in me.)

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  4. Knowledge

    Oct 7th, 2009

    First off, I was born 7 years after you guys. My introduction to hip-hop was Midnight Marauders and Enter The 36 Chambers. I loved all hip-hop until around 2000, when things went downhill. Now I listen to more underground and “old” music than anything else. I’m discovering old classics like The Art Of Storytelling, but still trying(mostly in vain) to find things that I like in the mainstream.

    I’ve been saying for a minute that popular hip-hop is gonna collapse and then music will go back to the way it should be. That the only outcome I see happening. Sales are gonna plummet further, and the people only in hip-hop for money are gonna have to find another get-rich quick scheme. I await that day with fear and hope

    Btw: I thought that people like Lupe and (early) Kanye could replace Tribe in that yin-yang situation you spoke of, but that won’t be possible if people don’t accept what that position means. I’m tired of people complaining that alternative artists don’t have the sales of Wayne. They’re not supposed to! So they need to get over it.

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  5. Sam

    Oct 7th, 2009

    Danj, I feel you. I had a conversation the other day about Jadakiss. I’m pretty neutral about ‘kiss. I think he’s ok, but certainly not one of the best MCs of our day. Someone said how they thought Jada was this tremendous lyricist, and it struck a nerve with me. Simply because he’s one of the best worst MCs out, that doesn’t make him GOOD. Just because he can form a couple of lines in a rhythmic pattern with words that sort of make sense, he’s no poet laureate.

    …and that’s the problem with where we’re at right now. Once the quality of the overall product is degraded to a certain level, the best of the bad are considered the good. It’s complacency at its finest. If people actually gave a damn about lyrics, we wouldn’t have to hear about Gucci, because he’d still be selling CDs out of his trunk.

    Listening to hip-hop music in 2009 is like having a brainiac child who you love dearly, but who keeps bringing home failing grades. You love them, you know what they’re capable of, but you get frustrated that they’re not taking advantage of their talents.

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